If you have an oil leak down the front of cylinder head, inspect solenoid area for fresh oil. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi Nick and Casey, Thanks for the time on my case and here is an update: - Problem seems solved - It is definitely a problem of Vanos/Timing Chain matters, BUT it seems it has been solved by the easiest way: Oil Change!! - Nick at Pelican Parts. Thanks for getting back to me - much appreciated. If the engine is hunting that is where I would start. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi! Or does it sould like something outside the engine? Our capabilities include customizing bed bases, colors, fabrics and features for specific retailer requests. Changed Exhaust Vanos solenoid lower one of the two, and my E90 runs like a dream again. - Nick at Pelican Parts. When I was replacing busted expansion tank I removed the air filter housing and a sensor. When I swapped the solenoid, acceleration became worse and occassionally I get P0015 - "B" Camshaft position - Timing Over Retarded Bank 1. what are the VANOS angles - actual verse desired? But was all replaced. I feel I've thrown this exact code before in March. What is compression on all cylinders? Sounds like an engine misfire. I have tried cleaning the vanos solenoids and the engine light was gone for about 3 days. No sense in replacing them if they are not broken. Interesting that sometimes it does not happen for hours. slight ticking noise coming from engine when idlewhat can it be? Sounds like an engine misfire. It may be altered to ignore the MIL light. Anyway just wondering If a Vanos solenoid may be what I need. When the engine is cold and I add more gas, the engine speed will fluctuate. I have a P0012 code. Give our parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799 and they can help figure out which part or repair kit you need. i clean up the idle control operation now the rpm is over 500 is 700 to 800. but the thing is while i clean up the idle control operation with intake cleaner. Start there, let me know what you find. Best regards Fredrik, What and when are you using for the throttle data? Thanks for the direction- reading through the website and threads you guys are brilliant. Please Help. We might be looking at multiple problems here. 2007 328I SEDAN 100,000 miles, have problem with engine surging in park, in drive car will stall, buck and has a squealing noise at times. Addendum to previous comment: I also pulled the VANOS solenoids, cleaned, put back in swapped. Hi, thanks. what do you think, where should i start from. I'm thinking of cleaning the old ones and putting them back in because I need a car to drive lol. Is this the VANOS solenoid ? You will want to check desired verse actual camshaft angle. Not sure what vehicle you have. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Innova Sleep Systems is reinventing the way the world sleeps on adjustable beds. Could be the timing chain, possible worn guides. https://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/techarticles/BMW-3-Series-E90/FUEL-Eccentric_Shaft_Position_Sensor_Replacing/FUEL-Eccentric_Shaft_Position_Sensor_Replacing.htm - Nick at Pelican Parts. If they are clean, it could be worn timing components. I also have small backfire when I floor it while idling. I've been to two different workshops but they couldn't help me and I just lost my money. RECOMMENDATIONS, Confirm mechanical engine timing is in or out of spec. Tensioner seems fine but I may change that just to be sure. The car had some error codes that disappeared when I changed the spark plug, engine oil, oil filter, air filter and camshaft position sensor P0365. Hi Nick, the description for fault code PO54B reads Cold Start "B" Camshaft Position Timing Over-Retarded Bank 1. - Nick at Pelican Parts. When it comes on it reads P0015 "exhaust timing retarded". My timing chaing was changed recently. Scoped both cam sensors and am getting a good waveform - tried swapnostics again - no luck. So i notice that the car has rough start, vibration, and hesitate when accelerate. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi i have BMW 325i 2008 n53..getting missfires on cylinder 2 .car is Shakingvibrating at ide.discconecting o2 sensor.for bank 1 and car runs without missfires but still Shaking at ide.replaced fuel injectorscoils, spark plugs, chcecked compression. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I would try to clean the solenoids, then do an oil treatment and change the engine oil after. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. so it comes on and off same exact codes every single time. You can have worn or faulty VANOS parts. It stutters at idle and stutters through all rpm ranges while accelerating. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I would also recommend having him replace the eccentric shaft sensor because they seem to fail around the same time as the valve in the cover. Smooth for awhile but back to idle problem. Once you figure out what is missing, it will be easier to diagnose. Thanks Ed, I would need the p-codes to help. What module were they scanned from? Just yesterday by 07 328i started to have trouble starting and is idling rough. Could dropping one cause it to fail? Feb 22, 2022. I have found my intake camshaft sensor is not working and changed it, also changed MAF, cleaned throttle, cleaned solenoids 3 times and they were always dirty, changed sparks and air filter. Also can the brain box and oil sensor cause this issue? - Nick at Pelican Parts. now i fell so sad lost hope , try to figure it out what is the problem, Are there any fault codes currently stored? sorry i forgot to mention what model: It is an Bmw E91 318i with the N43 engine. If the system is not working properly, a fault code will be set. If it does, replace the solenoids. Thanks for looking at this. like i said i use autocom cdp for live data runs and that can show vanos positions,, with 130k on it for sure the chain will be worn i would think most barely make it to 80k so of were done at 80k its where prob needs doing again,, the other ways to tell is use a dummy tenioner that screws in to when chain tensioner goes and can measure the travel, or remove rocker cover and look down where tensioner sits and anything more than about 10mm showing out of tensioner its toast . Cleared code again but returned. I have a 2008 328i and was getting an error code for intermittent camshaft signal. if crankcase pressure is too high, it could cause oil leaks. Might be in VANOS actuators or faulty actuators. The noise makes me think the issue is in the actuator, or possibly a worn timing chain guide. I found oil leak on eccentric shaft sensor so I plan to change the gasket. If I take the solenoids out and soak them in gasoline overnight, blow them out the next morning and re-install, performance improves for a few days. Is it normal for vanos units to need replacement at this mileage? This will be your best bet when diagnosing. I replaced both vanos solenoids and now the car acts like the timing is off. Hi, I have a e92 2007 325i n52 I have had a intermittent fault for the last year, it is a loud squealing noise only when you lift off the gas, the car then runs lumpy. I have cleaned them both, the light went off temperately back on now. The timing issue may be worn chain guides or dirty VANOS solenoids. Rpms drop, car is about to stall, check engine light. I just thought they must get oil in there anyway. The most common fault codes are 2A82 and 2A87 not always but these codes come with it 2A98, 2A99, 29CC. Use a scan tool to confirm the fuel control is out of spec. Try swapping the solenoids first and seeing if the fault follows the solenoid. They don't show up for me either, which is odd. Here is a pro-level article on fuel trim (I found) and it has multi-parts, including testing. If the system is not working properly, a fault code will be set. The Huntington possesses one of the largest collections of British medieval manuscripts in the Western hemisphere. help, I can't offer any helpful insight without knowing what is missing from the system when you are trying to start it. Cheers. There is no sensor on the top of the valvetronic motor. The SES light comes on intermittently. All fuel trim specs please, these will help with direction. Bought it with 48,000 miles on it. Is this just an issue of cleaning and/or replacing vanos solenoid also? - Nick at Pelican Parts. After it warms up,about 10 minutes of driving, it will not idle correctly and I hear a whining/whistling noise. When I turn off I turn on the engine and then the car goes normally. If the angles are off and you will need to dig deeper.- Nick at Pelican Parts. The mechanic is saying that there was no vacuum leak anywhere, but that both solenoids needed to be replaced as well as the entire valve cover assembly and is billing close to $1900 for the repair. If it doesn't reach the desired positions, you could have an oil pressure or actuator issue. The Day after my check engine light came on then it shut back off. Stop and turn it off, back on and it's gone for 2weeks. Thanks, You can check if the solenoid screens are dirty again. Hi Nick. Hi Guys, got a 2008 320i N46 with 170,000 klms, no fault codes but very sluggish under 3000 rpm, worth replacing the vanos solenoids? The problem amd the code cleared shen i turned it back on. So basically I'm lost. Can anyone help explain or is this guy trying to get over on me? Also, sometimes I feel the acceleration lags a bit before goes normal afterwards. Yes, of course. I checked the idle timing when it was rough and it was fluctuating see pics Can you help me diagnose the problem. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts. No fault codes? Then recheck. I also changed the oil and the filter many times in a row and it was always really black and dirty. Unlikely the leaky oil filter housing is to blame Either due to sheared bolt or worn bearings, not sure. However, after a recent oil change Vavoline, previous: Helix, the rattle comes more often. I would find one you can trust all the time. This is the best one on the market. - Nick at Pelican Parts. It also has a 300 rpm drop in RPM's at idle, under load at stop lights, ectwhich causes a slight shudder, and "surge" while on the brakes. Good evening, I have a 2008 535xi n54. Air snorkel and solenoids double checked seated properly. did you do the vanos screens as suggested ? But saw this Vanos possibility on your site. Once I get new parts again I will try it and post the results here. its currently stalling, jerking at red lights, especially at cold starts in the morning. If the screens and oil are clean, the issue may be with a VANOS actuator, you'll want to check actual verse desired camshaft angle when the fault is present. Sounds like an engine misfire. We offer one of the best manufacturer's warranty in the industry, and our product innovations are used across the United States. Janie's Mr Pelican has helped me with parts and Nick with taking them apart. The best way to start is to check the DME for fault codes. Unplug both coolant temp sensors, the fan should come on immediately. - Nick at Pelican Parts. About once a month the oil filter cap will start leaking oil. I have a 320i E90 and the engine light half orange recently came on and the car went into limp mode. I have an auto e90 330i. oil pressor sensor ,and i replace it valve gasket , the 6 coils , vtt gasket because it leak on the coils #4 and #3. now the car just stall . car is 2010 e91 320 petrol, EML light is usually related to the throttle housing or air metering. Thank you! 2. I had an original Active AutoWerke tune about 6-8 months old at the time this occcurred. When I removed the intake solenoid, there was an O Ring, but the spacer was missing. Thanks a again! The car feels really slow or just like it doesn't have 218HP. Once you figure out what is missing, it will be easier to diagnose. has encountered it and what was . - Nick at Pelican Parts. What fault code pointed you to spark plugs? Code produced is P0015. Don't think so. They can figure out what part or repair kit you need. I would check vanos function using a scan tool like an Autologic and check engine timing if needed. Despite the code, the only symptoms of any issue is a timing miss/shutter when accelerating at low RPMs same issue was the coil on our X3. Before my old solenoids started acting up I was getting about 21 to 22 mpg but now around 16 to 17 , what do you think could be the cuase hopefully I didn't do anything wrong, If your check engine is not on, I would assume mileage is normal. Showed code for intake VANOS fault. Hello there, great article. Hello Nick, Thanks for the advise. Not sure. It will surge and drop between 100-500 RPM's until I give it rev the engine to 3k, and then it evens out. While doing a starter on 06Bmw I got a cyl 2 misfire. From trying to fix my car it broke down and is in even worse condition Any idea? Then your issue is likely a mechanical timing issue. Originally you stated it ran rough. Hey there, I have a problem with my 2007 BMW 335i as is looking for help! If they are all good, as you mentioned, only thing left is the actuators. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I brought the car to autozone and there were three codes in history. Can you suggest whether this is linked to spark plug or coil or vanos solenoid. You may have a mechanical timing issue. 2007 328xi - have oil leak and smoke coming through vent believe that to be valve gasket cover needing replacement, but car will also stall out completely at idle once I pull up to stoplight. I have been told by a couple of mechanics that it could either be the VANOS needs cleaning/replacing or the timing chain has stretched. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Had a scan done and Code is 2A87 vanos mechanical. - Casey at Pelican Parts, hello Nick Could you give me a clue why 2010 x3 radiator cooling fan is not coming on? I had error codes 2A87 outlet-VANOS, mecanic & 2A99 crankshaft, outlet crankshaft, correlation. Seal leaking, so not enough pressure? 2a7c- Vanos, inlet, cold start 2a82- Vanos, inlet 2a79- engine ecu vctc intake, cold start 2a98- crankshaft-inlet camshaft, correlation 2a80-Vanos inlet, activation Thanks, Nick, Try swapping the VANOS solenoids from exhaust to intake, does the fault code change? Your model should be the same. I have 2006 E90 where the CEL came on with code P0017. - Nick at Pelican Parts. My 2009 E90 328i Xdrive was bucking after replacing Vanos and threw 2D59 and was going into Limp modeDSC errors. Code reader gave 2A87 and 2F4A.. Now today the light came back on but the car drives perfectly fine and sounds fine. I think you should try this approach, I m sure nick will chime in, but I think that is what you need to do after reading your post. Have the valves been damaged? But took of yellow light check engin, If the filter failed, there may have been an oil pressure issue, which can cause the engine to shut off. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. I put them back the way they were initially and the violent shaking goes away and comes back to the initial slight shake at cold start and random idle thump/skip. Clean VANOS unit? Happy to buy parts from you if you think solenoid valves are a good place to start. Thanks again. Does this confirm that the solenoids are bad ? - Nick at Pelican Parts. I suppose as a follow up question; while the rough idle at cold start is gone, the car now feels as if its "swaying" at times, most notable when stopped after driving. Any ideas? could be that this assembly seized up and caused everything to go out of whack! Thoughts? I dont feel that I have 150 HP. Check spark, fuel injector pulse and fuel pressure, volume, quality and engine compression. New acquisitions build on existing curatorial areas and establish new areas of inquiry. I just purchased a 2009 Mini Coupe manual, AS-IS and just looking for ideas, help and/or suggestions. Yes, that could be a sign of an air leak or faulty breather system. Thanks in advance. Before I dive into taking this bad boy apart, am I missing anything else? Those faults are always timing related. Also the engine oil light comes off and on. I have 06 325i I have check engine codes p0012 & p0015 ..pls give me an idea for repairs..ty! I drove it home since he said it might go away. if low, it will set these codes and give similar symptoms. Pelican Parts specializes in performance and OEM-quality replacement parts for Porsche, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, MINI and other European marques. I have an E83 bmw 123K on it and it runs pretty good but the Service Engine Soon light comes on every now and then.It stays on for maybe 1-3 engine starts then dissappears for a month or so. If one is faulty it could cause an erroneous code. Hello Nick. Love your website and advise! The chain guides may be worn from the oil consumption issue. Don't have a reader so I'm going off their judgement. If the system is not working properly, a fault code will be set. Check out our Basic Maintenance section, which has all the parts you'll need to get your vehicle running its best, including filters, fluids, brakes, spark plugs, lighting, and more for your E90! I did try replacing tmap sensor on intake charge pipe,map sensor,and cleaned the vanos solenoids. I resistance checked the servo motor too, which checked out - low ohms pin to pin and infinitely high pin to case. during that time, the engine would crank but would not fire. Also confirm the oil level, condition and pressure is OK. - Nick at Pelican Parts, I really like all the posts here very helpfully indeed I have a2009bmw 320i and the codes that are coming up are po365 camshaft position sender also code p13 b6 is comeing on and it says undefined code could you please help be very gratefully, Sounds like you need a camshaft sensor. I am just wondering, if the 2nd catalizator were replaced, would that also fix the "service engine soon" light or could there be other issues behind. Car runs fine, but noticed a slight performance drop when accelerating quickly. Can I put a vacuum on it to see if it pulls anything out. Sounds like a fault for a circuit or wiring to the VANOS actuator solenoid. Which if the same, it can be a mechanical timing issue or faulty VANOS actuator. I saw engine oil for the gaskets, anything else? Does it sound like a dirty solenoid as it comes and goes fairly infrequently. wozzza said: Hoping that someone can help, I recently bought a 2007 Mini Cooper with a 1598cc engine, The engine light came on and checked the fault codes on a delphi system. ie. 05-17-2017, 08:13 AM . The light went away for a while, but the code continued to report as pending. Any advise on the fuel economy issue? 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