In another video, Taylor Marshall says this: I think the Pope has said heretical things. My position is that, before the fact of our sinfulness, God wills that everyone know the fullness of truth, and so He wills everyone to be Catholic. (1:50 PM), Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. I guess Taylor Marshall aint Braveheart. This shouldnt be engaged in public. Take it up with them. God forgive me for anything negative or incorrect that I have ever said about the SSPX. Please review Rule 4 and this post before making a top level comment: I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. (7:58 PM), I called him yesterday. I said Ive reached out several times in the New Year w/ scarcely a response. Do any have a Mandatum from their bishop to teach? Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. No reply. RoP [. He sent a diplomatic text insinuating there wouldnt be a call. (11:32 PM). It is not submission to acknowledge that Pope Francis is the Pope. Then, given our sinfulness and brokenness, God positively wills that there be other religions, such as the Christian denominations, present-day Judaism, and moderate peaceful Islam, so as to bring more souls to Him. And most of these people think you're scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. Eric Sammons replied to Shaw on Twitter (. (9:54 PM), Just gotta retry each day for unity. Too many apologists charge ridiculous amounts to come and speak at parishes and conferences. Yes, Taylor Marshall, anyone who accuses the Pope of heresy necessarily also commits the sin of schism by refusal of submission as well as communion with the Pope. To fulfill the positive precepts required of Catholics, we must submit our minds and hearts to the teachings of the Magisterium, including non-infallible teachings of the Pope. Pope St. Leo IX: By passing a preceding judgment on the great See, concerning which it is not permitted any man to pass judgment, you have received anathema from all the Fathers of all the venerable Councils. Marshall has been openly critical of Bishop Robert Barron's promotion of the Balthasarian thesis of the possibility of universal salvation. Meaning inheres in text, not intention. I have been sounding the alarm on him since my article, Reactionary Infiltration of Taylor Marshalls Book, Infiltration (5-30-19), and many critiques since that time. We have to be able to have discussion, Nonsense. He wont call back. He has helped countless people find tradition. Their many gods are a reflection of human failings. Ill continue to hope.). Taylor Marshall and the rad trad movement in general is adding onto the liturgical and spiritual problems the Church has been facing in the West. Catholics are drama queens, People were accusing me of not reaching out to Taylor. Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of Catholic Answers Live, and he has raving fans around the world. Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of "Catholic Answers Live," and he has raving fans around the world. I just dont want this dragging out in public. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Until a few months ago, Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon were friends and cohosts of the TM podcast, for God's sake. Kelly. For their good and mine and all of us, Im officially ending this nasty Twitter feud. Only dad does. Reaching out to a brother in Christ is ALWAYS good advice. Another wrong SSPX talking point. Calling FSSP bootlicking (as many who were supporting your tweet were doing) IS fragging. I love dialogue; I care about Taylor; most of all, I love the truth. He is the author of multiple books, including the 2019 bestselling book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Learn how your comment data is processed. You may not accuse the Pope of heresy. For now, we will meet the first of Marshall's critics: Dr. Jeff Mirus. Just defending myself with the truth. (3) And this teaching, which is also a Law of the Church: The First See is judged by no one (Canon 1404). The SSPX equaling formal schism stuff is wrong, as far as I know. (9:50 PM), Clarify where correct; apologize where incorrect. Its an important intellectual matter and it merits dispassionate debate. by Dr Taylor Marshall. However, around Easter of 2020 (during the pandemic), I found a bunch of people suddenly debating each other in Catholic circles regarding Marshall and Gordon (taking sides, calling the other side uncharitable, etc) and that, somehow, fellow internet Catholic Michael Voris of Church Militant got involved. Truly care for him. It is sheer blatant hypocrisy for him to also say that no one can judge the Pope. I cant fully access Taylor Marshalls tweets because he blocked me, but I can get at some: I am grateful to the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, by whom our Marshall family received the Resurrected Body of Christ on this Easter Morn. Imagine being me in this situation. It will not. Im asking.Thanks. (11:30 PM), Dave and I guessabout the status of SSPX differently. If this separates me from Taylor Marshall and his more deranged fans, so much the better. Posted on Friday, October 5, 2018. And yet his accusers ignore his statements which agree with their point of view! (9-7-21), LIVE: Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall (9-8-21). VIGANO Part 2 [Podcast] . I cant do UNITY alone. (4-14-20, 4:58 PM), It is fixable. I am living my life and have no time for their judgments over my soul and my family. When a guru, as in John Corapi falls many are scandalized, some in my parish are just now returning to the Church. Canon 1364, n. 1: an apostate from the faith, a heretic, or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication. Your email address will not be published. Outward unity among the reactionaries has been fairly solid, since all alike detest and despise the pope (my enemys enemy is my friend.). They put their faith in strong men. Honesty check time, (accidentally) mischaracterized my position, which is actually schismatic attitude in many/most attendees (but not all). I used to believe this nonsense as well. Garabandal: Are the Prophecies About to be Fulfilled? In this video, Pope Francis Accused of 7 Counts of Heresy by 19 Scholars, Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon discuss the Open Letter accusing Pope Francis of heresy. Reactionary Infiltration of Taylor Marshalls Book, Traditionalism vs. They received confirmation from Bishop Kevin Vann in May 2006. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. I said Ive reached out several times in the New Year w/ scarcely a response. Faith, Your Emotions Are Killing Your Mind, Body and Soul, A Catholic Priest Who Doesnt Understand What Marriage Is. The statement in question is the false allegation that Francis said God positively wills a plurality of religions. It needs to stop. They are, A) shes calling names, not me B) my daughter has brain surgery in 90 mins and many of these people want to go to war with good guys like FSSP. If it is an apologists opinion, not the teaching of the Church I ask, Do you receive the Sacraments from so and so? Do you go to your apologist when you have a problem in your marriage? Where does so and so receive authority to teach? Cant be sensitive or grudge-holding over some of these memes. If youre tired of politically correct mediaspeak, you want to see God back in the public square, and youre not allergic to having a laugh, you will love this podcast. Take it up with them. If so, please seriously consider a much-needed financial contribution. Theres a lot of nonsense being asserted about the SSPX lately online. Maybe, but his schism is not. . I think youre, closer to my position than Taylors since both of us wont attend SSPX (for ineffable reasons, even) and yet he will, In the interest Christian unity, Id like to emphasize that I do NOT believe that. R4R is going to settle the debate in the coming weeks. (4-12-20: Easter Sunday, 6:25 AM), Shots fired by Retrograde Gordon Bros against Marshall. These types of religions hinder the path of salvation, and are will by God only in the sense that He wills to permit sin because of free will. There are certainly a few factors, as with all etiologies, but I speculate that his evolution regarding SSPX was probably one of them. #TnT1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTcyTZ_Yc02 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMTNjOjDmjM 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKimOr9RRCI 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV9v0RUlqMQ 5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUjt0uZv-g 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyJ_EX1UPtA7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-AG_nBPhH4 8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmEMbyttCs The Catholic Talk Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9w8fxlmP4 Some are born from culture, but they always look to heaven; they look to God. Wish ALL of them into the Kingdom of Heaven[. What would be the reaction of some knuckle-headed character played by Mel Gibson? Everyone KNOWS what the modernists were trying to do. Never too late when people care for each other in true Christian charity (which I do for Taylor). Vatican II is a valid ecumenical council,yet it is trashed all the time and regarded as fundamentally less authoritative than Vatican I and (especially) Trent: even though Pope Benedict XVI (the bitterly disappointing former darling: because he resigned), writing in 1985, made it clear that Vatican II and Trent have precisely the same authority. (8:33 PM), Never too late when people care for each other in true Christian charity (which I do for Taylor). More than Giving up Chocolate*. The above three dogmas are well-established in Church teaching. The latter of which was/is troubling and misleading[.] (9:16 PM), Lets have robust discussion about the status of the SSPX (whom I still hold to be in objective schism) going forward, but in a spirit of Christian fraternity and unity. He never said. And now at each others throats, acting like enemies, over one difference of opinion? Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. They are expressions of imagination and wishful thinking. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. Now they havent judged him, obviously no one can do that. This, Timothy Gordon rejects. Lets take this offline and chat by phone later, yes? So I hope the Good Lord will make allowances for us lesser folk. Now its happening to the one who was his partner. (3:18 PM), Completely unacceptable, Taylor. God allowed this. You may not stand in judgment over the Pope. Im always in need of more funds: especially. So he wills that there should be, by divine permission, other religions through which the Holy Spirit works, to bring more souls to Him. But youre not understanding that conciliar documents need to be interpreted under the construction most optimally faithful to Tradition, wherever possible. If anyone can enlighten me, that would be appreciated. Dont worry brother[.] Self-described feminist singer Paula Cole had a hit single in 1996 titled Where Have All the Cowboys Gone, in which she bemoaned the dearth of real men (Where is my John Wayne; where is my prairie song; where is my happy ending; where have all the cowboys gone?). Because there are so many other awesome channels out there, and knowing this man publicly berated those who accept FSSP or NO in their life pilgrimage is no different than calling them rabble. Is there actually a breaking point? Who determines where that is? [10][11], Marshall has published books in the fields of theology, philosophy, and historical fiction. Traditionis Custodes: Sky is Here After Four Months! [2] He is a founder of the New Saint Thomas Institute, an online Catholic theology educational program, and the Troops of Saint George, a Catholic scouting organization. Marshall goes on to make the judgment that Pope Francis has taught heresy and grave error, contrary to dogma. This is contrary to the first Commandment of the Ten Commandments. Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of heresy on the plurality of religions, and of violating one of the Ten Commandments. Fro Taylor Marshall to T Gimordon I have listened to Taylor Marshall's videos for 2 years and became acquainted with Tim Gordon. The signatories to the Open Letter have committed heresy, and so has Taylor Marshall, by rejecting the teaching of the Council that no Pope can teach or commit heresy. (5:07 PM), Im not convinced SSPX is in schismatic! Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. Im fine. I was being snubbed. Yet he also says that no one may judge the Pope. I said nothing about you or your family on here and never would! (If recent history is a guide, I wont get a reply. [23][24] In March 2020, it was revealed that Marshall himself had personally funded Tschugguel's trip to Rome and uploaded the video of the theft. Honesty check time[.] But after the fact of our sinfulness, our fallenness, our brokenness, given that many persons are weak in many ways, and so cannot bring themselves to accept the Catholic religion, God permits them other paths to salvation, which are nevertheless always through Christ and His Church (even though they may not realize this). NOT TOO LATE! [6] In 2009 Marshall earned his Master of Arts degree in philosophy, and in 2011 earned a Doctor of Philosophy degree in philosophy, at the University of Dallas. But if youre saying that hes a heretic, which they say in his opening line, an heretical Pope, my ecclesiastical sense says, you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. And that is something that I, Taylor Marshall, on this date, cannot say. Everyone KNOWS what the modernists were trying to do. They talk about tough things but have a good time! He specifically said that the plurality of religion is due to the permissive will of God. Can we talk about that? (4:22 PM), PS: this isnt a big deal. Look where it got them. All else is minutiae, God bless FSSP! To all those who believed that I was criticizing his/his familys reception of the Eucharist from the SSPX rather than the implicit invitation for the less-educated faithful to frequent SSPX liturgy, note this was not my intention. Do not imitate him. In this episode, you will learn: Tons of defamatory theories swirling about my motives and about the TnT breakup itself (which Marshall is conspicuously failing to correct). Oh my! We also look at the errors of Balthasar and his hypothesis of "Dare We Hope that All Be Saved" (a theory also espoused by Bishop Robert Barron). Thank you! Sep 08, 2021. [16] Marshall was noticed by the campaign in return, and retweeted on the president's Twitter account. I used to believe this nonsense as well. ). Its destructive and wrong. But in an April 2020 tweet, Tim said that his contract with Marshall was not renewed "against my wishes." Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. 2 or 3 of them. What, Marshall seems to be asking, would Rambo do? (12:36 PM), Dave and I disagree about *how close* VC2 comes to embracing ecumenism/modernism. The other hypocrisy here is that Marshall said no one may judge the Pope, and they he says, to the Pope, You are wrong on a long series of subjects. One has the right to defend ones reputation, For the annals of history: I didnt leave. I was non-renewed against my wishes. And since Marshall does accuse Pope Francis of heresy, later in the video, he is not in submission or communion with the Pope. There are certainly a few factors, as with all etiologies, but I speculate that his evolution regarding SSPX was probably one of them. His cohort in over 100. (3:39 PM), Nonsense. He is, in a video far too tedious to link to, claiming that they are cowards. I heard he was mad about some of them, have helped you (by Gods grace) to decide to, , or better understand some doctrines and, Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. I think youre [Steve Skojec] closer to my position than Taylors since both of us wont attend SSPX (for ineffable reasons, even) and yet he will (5:20 PM), In the interest Christian unity, Id like to emphasize that I do NOT believe that@TaylorRMarshallerred by receiving the Eucharist from the SSPX on Easter; regular parishes are widely shuttered and there was no other possibility of receiving the Holy Eucharist. Marshall: "I look at this and I say: You are wrong on Luther. Cant be sensitive or grudge-holding over some of these memes. Whats obtuse is a hermeneutic of intentionalism instead of a hermeneutic of textualism, Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. He has very thoroughly rejected the magisterial authority of the Pope, to such an extent that whenever the Pope teaches anything contrary to Marshalls own thinking, he immediately assumes the Pope is wrong (see below), and he does not accept Pope Francis as Teacher and Shepherd. . Theres an unimagined gap between FSSP and SSPX, Honestly: All I care about is the truth. Timothy (words in green henceforth, and Taylors in blue) tweeted on April 13th ( at 8:06 PM and 8:13 PM): Just defending myself with the truth. Such was my purpose for my rejoinder. With so many apologists, all scrambling to act as conference speakers or experts which ones do you trust? As if this is what we need right now at this moment in history. (8:04 PM), no pattern except that I wish them both welltheyre both Catholics with whom I mostly agree Trent [Horn]: a smart dude I barely know & only spoke with thrice; Taylor: a smart dude I know WELLspoke to him daily for over a year, until he abruptly/mostly stopped replying to texts/calls[.] Along with the Muslims, we are the descendants of the same Father, Abraham: why does God allow many religions? [29][30], With the exception of Infiltration, Marshall's books are self-published under the imprint of Saint John Press and Media, a company held and managed by Marshall.[13][14]. If it is correct great. Whats obtuse is a hermeneutic of intentionalism instead of a hermeneutic of textualism[.] The ordinary form Mass is still valid, yet it is trashed all the time and regarded as objectively inferior. And Catholics who attend it are despised and looked down upon, as second-class Catholics. Of course, following someone on Twitter does not . It had become clear we didnt agree about Taylors evolving position on the SSPX, but I wished to continue: we were still bringing souls to the Church together, which matters most to me, : Im happy to chat, do a show, slap high fives and come together about the (majority) stuff we agree on OR do a civil show about the (minority) stuff we disagree on. The latter of which was/is troubling and misleading, Im not convinced SSPX is in schismatic! Marshall and Gordon have each appeared on her YouTube channel, and Nicholas has interacted with her tweets more than 100 times since 2017. But the meaning of the Council inheres in the text[.] Acta non verba. He does this by examining the history of the conflict between Church and Freemasonry, examining many recent private revelations and prophecies, and tying these to the undeniably unsettling developments within the Church in the last 60 years. Wow. Its practically sedevacantist.. I think (all reactionary issues aside for the moment) Timothy Gordon shows himself to be acting as a Christian should (in terms of seeking to reconcile); Taylor Marshall is not acting in such a fashion. Calling FSSP bootlicking (as many who were supporting your tweet were doing) IS fragging. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. [25], Marshall briefly received attention from Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign for popularizing Archbishop Vigan's letter warning of a deep state working to undermine the United States of America. Ive been reaching out for months; just defending myself against slander, no pattern except that I wish them both welltheyre both Catholics with whom I mostly agree Trent [Horn]: a smart dude I barely know & only spoke with thrice; Taylor: a smart dude I know WELLspoke to him daily for over a year, until he abruptly/mostly stopped replying to texts/calls. No one has the authority to do that, as the Popes decisions are not subject to review. We bring that up over and over on TNT. Please take a look at this list of my books and booklets, and see if any topic interests you. Mirus begins by mocking Marshall and then descends into ad hominem attacks like this one: "discussing the book is rather like pointing . whilst simultaneously supporting burgeoning numbers of professional scribes. Im arguing that they failed by not clearly articulating their modernism, The issue is that the texts are to be presumed faithful unless specifically heretical, even if their drafters used weaponized ambiguity. (2) No Pope can commit apostasy, heresy, or schism, for then his faith would have failed. Friendly reminder that all top level comments must: start with "answer:" (or "question:" if you have an on-topic follow up question to ask). Reaching out to a brother in Christ is ALWAYS good advice. (4-14-20, 4:59 PM). Marshall: I just dont see where anyone on earth can judge the Supreme Pontiff.. Catholic Doctrine and the Sunday Readings for March 2023, Please Welcome Our Speaker for Tonight Mrs. I ask everyone to pray for all parties involved. Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. This critique hinges on the implicit denial of Catholic doctrine and prudence: dismissal of the conspiracy because it is a conspiracy. Photographed by, Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The Latin Mass Society of England and Wales. Lets appeal to civility Ironic to have to say, because we produced 100+ really good shows on difficult topics over the course of 15 mos. (4:02 PM), Why all the handwringing about civility? Shall we list the many who have done this? Ego kills. Lets take this offline, bro. Not just VC2. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. He was acting as a good father. Such heated rhetoric between ostensible allies and fellow reactionaries has huge implications for the internal unity of the reactionary movement, which appears to be significantly fracturing (an almost inevitable occurrence with all heretical, schismatic, and quasi-schismatic movements; I classify reactionaries as in the latter group). The basic distinction between masculine and feminine, and why the sexes are not equal but complementary. Dont act as if fringe groups and their leaders arent the mob w/ gang bosses on Cath twitter. They stopped being men and became guys, and now, in tragic numbers, feckless soy boys. What if its true, Eric? Not gonna tweet anymore on this, Agreed. No matter how many conservative Popes follow, if Taylor Marshall does not repent of his sin of rejecting the teachings and authority of Pope Francis, he remains a heretic and a schismatic, who sins anew every time he receives holy Communion. Its contrary to the Councils, Tradition, Fathers.. (3:04 PM), I dont believe (never have) as Dave does that formal schism is most likely. Dont act as if fringe groups and their leaders arent the mob w/ gang bosses on Cath twitter. Finally, God wills to permit unbelief and highly-flawed religions, under His permissive will, because He respects our free will. (4-13-20, 12:52 PM), I reached out to [Timothy Gordon] this morning, actually. What would a resurrection of men look like? [13][14] He actively promotes traditionalist Catholicism through his various websites, blog posts, podcasts, and YouTube videos. Look at what the Church says on the matter: Debating an issue is fragging? Dr. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon knock it outta da park HERE. Thats heteropraxy, not heterodoxy. In this video, I critique Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon's portrayal of Henri de Lubac's theology of nature and grace. PS: this isnt a big deal. Im blocking the 3 Gordons because they will not drop it regarding me and the SSPX. Major pattern. RoP [Right On Point] is a perfect forum for this. St Paul of Tarsus fought to the death with half the people who crossed his path and he was a very, very great Saint indeed. Will do whatever I can. I wondered why I hadnt seen Timothys face on the ubiquitous Taylor Marshall videos as of late . But again, has to involve all willing parties. (1:53 PM), The world of text, hermeneutic, jurisprudence. I will unsubscribe from the Taylor Marshall channel. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable. The current dust-up has far more potentially serious consequences, as I will show. You are wrong on all of these things. (4:06 AM), Photo credit:Thomas Splettstoesser (8-15-06):atomic structure of profilin in comlex with actin, PDB code 2BTF, cartoon representation, rendered with PyMol [public domain / Wikimedia Commons], Famed Atheist Champion Antony Flew Became a Deist, Taylor Marshall vs. Timothy Gordon (Hatfields & McCoys Redux). Mind your business Steve. Yes theres a new theology that needs to be rejected. ], Im not a grudge holder. This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. See the pattern there? Dont worry brother, No worries at all. What's the essence of their disagreement? Only dad does. Sorry, Taylor! They talk about tough things but have a good time! Another wrong SSPX talking point. (9:46 PM), No worries at all. And thats just what it is, guessing. I heard he was mad about some of them[.] God forgive me for anything negative or incorrect that I have ever said about the SSPX. (4-14-20, 4:36 PM), Precisely, no more feuding in public. Why all the handwringing about civility? I said nothing about you or your family on here and never would! (2:04 PM), I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid! (2:14 PM), Just tried calling you. Now, recall (above) when Taylor Marshall said that if you accuse the Pope of heresy you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. Well, he is accusing the Pope of heresy, so he is not in communion with him. [22], In October 2019, Marshall received media attention for publicizing an incident at the Catholic Church's Amazon Synod in which Alexander Tschugguel and an accomplice filmed themselves removing indigenous fertility statues, reportedly of Pachamama, from the Church of Santa Maria in Traspontina in Rome and throwing them into the Tiber river. It becomes like the infighting of pope-less Eastern Orthodoxy. Earlier still, on April 12th, Gordon tweeted: Im not asserting with certainty that SSPX is in a formal schism. Wherever it leads. Tim Gordon was a high school theology teacher at a Catholic school in California. Its not a matter of opinion. . On 15 April 2020 I documented the fracas when Marshall abruptly terminated the contract of his associate in many videos, Timothy Gordon. For those who don't know, they are both in the traditionalist Catholic blogosphere (in an extremely brief summary, traditionalist Catholics are very conservative and prefer Catholic rituals done as they were before the Second Vatican Council). 163: Is it OK to Criticize Pope Francis? Care to say more than a drive-by insult, Fr Khouri? Hes been ignoring me nearly 100% since almost immediately after he said he wouldnt do another year of TNT. Submit your mind and heart to the Vicar of Christ, as to Christ himself. Marshall then goes on to say that God just wills the Catholic religion. Theres always room to come@back together. Im of the opinion that TM is an opportunist who does more harm than good bc he keeps the barking going. The example shown by so many conservative Catholics is gravely immoral. But its certainly here now. Sometimes they bark at perceived threats, sometimes they bark at each other, but the howling never ceases. Its not the first time. Thats why youll always see me warning against SSPX even though its trending now and him riding the wave. Please disown that, For my part, I didnt even see the SSPX debate your post caused until late afternoon. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up. Do you think that your enthusiasm for the new Pope erases your sins of heresy and schism? Clarify where correct; apologize where incorrect. They stopped being men and became guys, and now, in tragic numbers, feckless soy boys. Theres always room to come@back together. Wow! but for all negative comments about them. We should be afraid were we to fail to work fraternally to walk together in life.. I dont believe (never have) as Dave does that formal schism is most likely. He injects these fascinating interviews with his own distinctive blend of depth and levity. Anyways, I kind of enjoyed these podcasts when I had the free time and was still learning about Catholicism, but as classes have ramped up, I admit to having stopped listening to a lot of them since I have very little free time now (I now listen to maybe a couple from Dr. Marshall here and there).