He was ordered to pay $2.6 million in restitution. His stay was something right out of a "fish out of water" movie: Sixx was fresh off his near-fatal 1987 overdose and had evidently straightened himself out somewhat. That's true of all economic models, but people don't make decisions that way. In the book: After the failure of Mtley Cre and Vinces own solo efforts, it becomes clear that no one from Mtley Cre, including the bands original lead singer, is a rock star without the rest of them. However, Motley Crue got the last laugh: According to 2019 figures, they have raked in roughly $150 million in royalties. Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. He is quickly outperformed by Mick Mars, who is given the job. Goofier passages from the book were omitted, like when Mick gets hammered in Tokyo, puts on a Godzilla mask, smashes glasses, and tries to breathe fire out of his ass. In the movie: In the bands roach-filled abode mere steps from the nightclub Whisky a Go Go, Nikki suggests the name X MASS, for shock value. Yet, when someone actually tries to hit them with some consequences, they can be pretty thin-skinned: In 2005, MTV tells us Motley Crue sued NBC because the network had banned them because they had dropped an F-bomb during an NBC Christmas special. It just wasn't sounding good to me. He later added that his departure from the band was "the last thing (I) thought would happen. Though Motley Crue went on to record an album with John Corabi on lead vocals, the material from those Neil rehearsals never saw the light of day. We poured through various moments in the film and found 10 worth fact checking: As The Dirt begins in the early days of Motley Crue, there is a scene featuring a borderline incompetent guitarist auditioning for the band. Nikki has an out-of-body experience; he watches as a horde of fans who followed him to the hotel peer at his body as its being carried out on a stretcher. There, they witness Vinces onstage power over women and set their sights on bringing Vince in. -The Dirt Autobiography, This supposedly happened when Ozzy Osbourne toured with Mtley Cre and rode on their bus. Mick Mars Didnt Get Hip Replacement Surgery Until 2004 I have no clue why its in there other than I was outta my head and its possibly greatly embellished or [I] made it up.. McGhee and longtime partner Doug Thaler, who have shepherded Bon Jovi, the Scorpions, Skid Row, Motley Crue and others, have severed their management partnership. Young and the Restless spoilers from actor Doug Davidson reveal he was let go from the CBS soap after more than 41 years as Paul Williams. This password will be used to sign into all, Photo: Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images, Photo: Richard E. 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That's a good question. You can't fire Vince Neil, because he quit! He shows up to a jam session with Tommy and a pansy guitarist named Robin. A lot of laughter, a lot of crying, a lot of shock. As president of the band's business affairs, Nikki Sixx was in town for the duration of the proceedings. And I never used to cry then. The movie captures the rest of the events accurately - from Sixxs life-saving adrenaline shot, to his exit from the hospital only to be greeted by mourning fans. Hes got the haircut right, but at no point does he demonstrate an actual ability to speak and not a single note of his music is heard. I cried. Lets Do the Thing: How Online Were You in February 2023? The video is shot in the matter-of-fact style of news clips, and it did not go over well with MTV executives, who banned it from the channel. It happened when they were in a limo, not a bus. They played at clubs, colleges and bars looking for a record contract. The bass player defended himself by saying he "does not recall" the story beyond reading it, and also admits that he doesn't remember a lot of his interviews for the book. We do know that the Motley Crue bassist has a half-brother in real life. In 1989 Performance magazine again named him Personal Manager Of The Year. Sixx's comment about possibly embellishing the rape story in the book applies . Johns involvement with the band is used minimally in the script to highlight a low point for the group, and to underscore Vinces eventual reunion with his rock n roll family. In the film's credits, he is named Randy, but research states thatthe man's actual name is Rodney Anthony (whether Randy is a nickname, were not sure). According to MTV News, Tommy Lee found himself in a strange place in 1999. This moment gets classified as FICTION, but only due to semantics. She is linked through DNA evidence to the killings of . Yes. As has as I mentioned in my presentation, FBI, some . If youre to believe Tommy, Mick fired Robin on the spot, but Mick says he was told to do it. Loudwire tells us the guitar player had a gig with his band White Horse at a nearby venue called Stone Pony but had snuck away for a bottle of tequila because the Pony's $2 shots were too expensive for his taste. Still, while Anderson is noticeably absent from the film, in real life she certainly left her impression on more than one band member as Vince Neil is happy to tell everyone in his autobiography Tattoos & Tequila, Anderson briefly dated him before she got together with Lee. Sixx says this is because the interviews were conducted in 2000, a year before he went into rehab, and incidentally a year when he was going through a particularly rough patch with his drug and alcohol intake. In the film, Nikki and Tommy meet up with Mick before they mend their relationship with Vince and greet him as he leaves a hospital following hip replacement surgery. Tom Zutaut: Oh, good. The Dirt movie seems to be in line with the true story, depicting this as it's been reported. In any case, it's a significant deviation from the true story. Doug Thaler is on Facebook. He was arrested for assaulting her and spent six months in prison. Education Bachelor, State University of New York, Cortland, 1967. However, when the police arrived they told him that if he pressed charges against his mother, he would have to live in a juvenile home for the next four years until he reached the age of 18. Due largely in part to Neils absence, though also partially because of the mainstream's changing musical tastes, Motley Crue was a commercial failure. 4. We were burnt the fuck out. We want to hear it. They had two children. Unfortunately, Sixx's string of answers included KISS, which didn't impress Mars, but the guitarist still invited the kid to White Horse's concert after he clocked out. The Weeknd responded to a Rolling Stone story claiming the show is a rape fantasy with a clip of his character calling the mag irrelevant. No. When Neil 's. Honestly, I hate to say this, but I think they got every fu**ing thing perfect.". In 2017, Leon said that Lee had been courting him for the proto-Motley Crue, but the guitarist was uninterested because of the presence of Sixx he thought Sixx was a terrible musician. If there's one thing we learned from The Dirt, it's that it's shockingly easy for a rock band to negotiate the rights to their own music. The furniture smashed into two brand-new Mercedes-Benzes that were parked below. In the movie: Tremaines film makes a joke explicitly about its decision to cut Doug Thaler from the movie. "Mtley Cre say something about the fact that I snorted a line of ants one time," said Ozzy. Nikki recalls urinating on Rick Nielsens jacket, despite proclaiming to be a big fan of Cheap Trick. The couple had two children together. Manager Allen Kovac describes the deal the band brought to the negotiation table: "Give us $2 million, keep $10 million and Motley will own their masters and copyrights.". After two minutes, he was brought back to life by shots of adrenaline to the heart. Mars then turns to the camera and says, This didnt actually happen. As the straight man to their antics, Doc is shown handcuffing Tommy to a bed at the end of a montage that details a wild day in his life, which includes Tommy snorting his infamous Zombie Dust a mix of sedative Halcion and cocaine. Doug was a good guy and its kinda shitty he got cut from this movie, but I think this is as good a version as any. Thaler who is only briefly seen on screen then disappears, never to be featured again in the film. The films depiction of the moment Motley Crue met their future manager, Doc McGhee, is FICTION - and the movie openly admits it. -The Dirt AutobiographySpeaking of fire, Nikki Sixx said that they really did use hairspray and lighters to kill the cockroaches in their apartment. Following Neils departure, Motley Crue recruited Corabi of the band the Scream to be their new vocalist. Nikki tells Tommy that the band is breaking up and that he's planning to form a new band. Of course, Neil's brief involvement with a pre-fame Anderson was merely an aperitif compared to the vast banquet of celebrity tabloid antics that was the Baywatch star's whirlwind romance with and marriage to Lee. So. He put together a rap-metal act called Methods of Mayhem, and started hobnobbing and collaborating with artists such as Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Wu-Tang Clan member U-God, and even Limp Bizkit's Fred Durst. Tragic as the accident was, the trial of the case in 1988 was something completely different. Historically, its a strange choice, but clearly filmmakers believed it necessary to keep the narrative moving. But Nikki didnt like his attitude and Mick Mars thought he was a hippie, which was basically a death sentence for a member of Mtley Cre. He is Doug Thaler. When thats shot down, Tommy offers a crude drawing of penises to support his idea, The Fourskins. But its when Mick writes down Motley Crew and says, Ive been waiting a long time for this day, that everything clicks. Randy Castillo replaces Tommy while Tommy pursues his solo project, Methods of Mayhem. Doc McGhee and Doug Thaler co-managed the band although Thaler is cut out to simplify the story. But it happened at the US Festival, not the Forum. Eventually, they teamed with Netflix, who promised them that they would not sanitize the true story. But when they showed up, not only were they placed on the bill prior to all the other acts, but Bon Jovi were doing a full set and had pyro. Back in November 1981, just less than 12 months after they got together, Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx, Mick Mars and Tommy Lee were total unknowns; young, dumb and practically overflowing with cum, inhabiting the Mtley . In the book, Nikki reflects upon the event, writing, "For ten years solid, we had been invincible." (The book later notes that Nikki made threats against a sex worker, and spoke twice about his. Rogers, a zealot who is usually impervious to facts, finally woke up and found a clown show even too . Mars even drunkenly gave Sixx his phone number. He also brought his partner, Doug Thaler. In the end, Doug isnt important enough to the era on which this Mtley Cre movie focuses. He is only seen briefly. Heres a look at 14 of them. If youre curious about how The Dirt memoir differs from its new Netflix counterpart (featuring Pete Davidson as an A&R rep and sudden movie star Machine Gun Kelly as Tommy Lee), read on. And she was wearing a leopard-skin bikini. Really, cop cars only seem to turn up for the real life-and-death stuff namely, when Vince Neil crashes his car and kills the Hanoi Rocks drummer Razzle. In Motley Crue's 2001 memoir The Dirt, Thaler said long-developing tensions had boiled over after Neil failed to show up for a rehearsal in flood conditions, while the rest of the band, who . His punishment included just 30 days in jail (of which he served 19) and five years probation. She dropped to the ground with her hand over her face. That is, until Neil returned. The accident is also shown to be due to a temporary absence of attention, drifting into the opposite lane, but the true story is Niel swerved around a firetruck and hit a wet spot on the asphalt while driving 65 mph in a 25 mph zone, which caused them to hit two oncoming cars. It also captures Vince Neil being kicked out of the band and his eventual return. -Rolling Stone, Yes. They met at the Denny's specifically to talk about forming a new band. In reality, he was the drummer in a group called Suite 19 that Sixx had seen in concert and found very impressive. The saga of rock band Mtley Cre is one of the most dramatic in rock n roll history, mixing on-tour shenanigans with episodes of death and self-destruction. Fact-Checking Mtley Cre's Netflix Movie 'The Dirt' - Rolling Stone on with the goddamn show. Tommy Lee was sued for assaulting a photographer in 2013, and as E Online notes, was sentenced to six months in jail for spousal battery in 1998 after a particularly nasty scuffle with Pamela Anderson. The latter was killed in a car accident on February 12, 1968 (per Discogs), and most of the remaining members were assimilated into Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow in 1975, according to Allmusic. He also brought his partner, Doug Thaler. Doug's a good guy, and it's kinda shitty he got cut from this movie, but I think this is as good a version as any. While the other band members undermined this new injection of creativity with a bunch of hilariously awful mistakes (like firing their manager, lawyers, and accountants while attempting to produce the record themselves), Corabi was never an issue for them, and they liked him so much they wanted to keep him around despite the 1994 album's lack of success. According to Vinces account, Nikki breaks out of the hospital shortly after. The relevant story lines include but are not limited to: At the start of his career, Vince marries a woman named Beth Lynn, and then marries a mud wrestler and model named Sharise Ruddell, who gives birth to their child Skylar. As E Online reports, in just a handful of years they managed to become parents, cement their place as one of (if not the) most followed couples in the world, make constant waves wherever they went, inadvertently become the stars of the most famous celebrity sex tape ever, and fall out so badly that Lee was sentenced to six months in prison for spousal battery. As we separated the facts from the fiction in The Dirt, we learned that while the band was in Switzerland, Vince and Tommy bought flare guns and fired one inside their hotel room. They fired McGhee on the spot and went with Thaler on his own, at least until the Corabi album bombed. Fan turnout was poor while the band toured to support the release, a FACT that the film got right. Even with Motley Crue's autobiography to guide filmmakers, it was inevitable that some events depicted in the movie would be historically inaccurate to some degree. Sumner Redstone's abrupt firing of Freston as Viacom CEO in the fall of that year sent the movie into limbo, even as fans such as David Fincher kicked the tires on directing the project. Lee married Baywatch actress Pamela Anderson in 1995 after knowing her for just four days. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. In researching The Dirt true story, we discovered that not everything in the Mtley Cre movie happens exactly when it did in real life. It is implied that this is right after Vince rejoined, but theyre basically in their 2005 reunion tour outfits. Motley Crue's manager does have a small scene in the beginning of the movie, but quickly exits and never appears again. There, Nikki pleads with Vince to rejoin Mtley Cre, dubbing the group a family and apologizing for not being there when Skylar passed. In the movie: Doc (David Costabile) is the chaperone, the rambunctious gangs glorified babysitter. It was a fellow named ODean Peterson who, according to Tommy Lee, had a voice somewhere between Ian Astbury of the Cult and Klaus Meine of the Scorpions. Out of money, and their music out of fashion, in 1981 Mtley Cre recorded a debut album that set the glam-metal ball rolling. 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